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How
did you get in to MMA?
I started in martial arts at the age of 9 and trained in several different
disciplines throughout my teens. In 1993 I was training with Frank Trejo when
UFC 1 was being put together. My training partner, Zane Frazier, was on the
card. At the time nobody knew if there would be a UFC 2 or that the sport
was about to take the world by surprise. After UFC 1 I continued to train
with Frank and expanded my regimen to include Judo and Jiu Jitsu. In the spring
of 1996 I met Larry Landless and found what I had been searching for, cohesive
and complete MMA training at Submission Factory.
Why
do you referee?
I love this sport! Plain and simple. I think of being a referee is similar
to being a bass player in a band. The bass player provides a consistent rhythm
and sets the groove so that the other instruments can shine. In MMA, I provide
a steady and consistent environment in the ring for the fighters to showcase
their talents.
Who
is you favorite fighter? Who is your least favorite fighter?
I never met a fighter I didn’t like. The personalities of fighters are
very diverse - from nice guys to “so called bad guys”, mild mannered
to in your face intense personality types. This sport is not for the faint
of heart, being an athlete is not enough, and there are very few people who
have what it takes. Just the fact a fighter will get in the cage and put it
all on the line earns my respect.
What
are your job responsibilities as a referee?
My first responsibility is safety. As a referee my job is to prevent the fighters
from receiving unnecessary damage. In a MMA match anything can happen in the
cage. Knowing when to stop a fight is a challenge, an enormous amount of damage
can happen in a split second or a fighter can receive a devastating blow and
recover quickly.
My next responsibility is to ensure that the fighters have a fairly arbitrated match. Before I referee a fight, I clear my mind of expectations. At the same time, I need the knowledge of what the fighters can do. It’s a hard balance: To know what to expect, but at the same time not to expect anything, because anything can happen.
What is the difference when you step in the cage as a referee compared to
stepping in a cage as a fighter?
When I step into the cage as a fighter, I’m having fun living life to
the fullest.
When I step into the cage as a referee, I’m at work and have a lot of
responsibilities that I value and consider sacred. This is a rough sport that
carries serious consequences.
What
is your most memorable moment in MMA?
Watching the very first match in UFC®
1 had the most impact for me. Back then, I could not believe that fighters
from different styles were actually going to step into the cage and fight.
Seeing a sumo wrestler (Teila Tuli) getting his tooth kicked out by a kick
boxer (Gerard Gordeau) 30 seconds into the fight was the most mind blowing
event to witness.
Do
you currently train?
Yes. While I am on the road traveling a lot, I make time to train. I feel
that it is important for my own health & fitness, it is a critical key
to being up to date with the sport and it keeps my competitive spirit thriving.
What
is your vision for the future of MMA?
I want to continue to be involved with officiating this sport as a whole;
this is my personal calling in life. I think it is imperative that the rules
of this sport be continually updated as it grows to keep the fighters safe
and the sport fun. On the horizon I see the separation between boxing and
MMA rules becoming more apparent. My vision is to see MMA thrive and grow
into the best sport on earth.
What
do you do in your time off?
My kids are the highlight of my time when I’m at home, we enjoy training
and playing music together. I also take pleasure in rebuilding cars and currently
working on a 1974 Bronco.
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